Harmony Korine
Answers Fan's Questions Via Barnesandnoble.Com
date > April 8, 1998
source > Harmony
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Moderator: Welcome to the Barnesandnoble.Com
Live Auditorium. Author Harmony Korine is joining us tonight to
chat about A Crackup At The Race Riots. Good evening,
Harmony Korine. We're so glad to have you online tonight! How are
you this evening?
HK: I'm fine, thank you.
Joy from Ann Arbor, MI: Your book sounds like it's pretty
hard to explain. I'm curious to read your description. How would
you describe A Crackup At The Race Riots?
HK: I probably wouldn't. I'd probably just read it. I think any
attempt to really describe something or to categorize it would
just fall short of my intent.
Hally from Brooklyn, NY: Many of the short pieces in your
book are in the first person. Are you the "I" in these,
or are they scenes where the characters are unnamed? Is this book
an autobiography?
HK: No, it's hard for me to say. Kind of the idea was that there
would be no real authorship. With every turn of the page, what
you're reading, the voices are coming from all directions. Every
page is different. Who knows who wrote it? I don't know.
Tom from Athens, Ohio: I read in your bio that you were
raised in the carnival. What was your upbringing like? How has
this influenced your writing and other work?
HK: My upbringing was carnivalesque, and I can't really comment on
how it's affected my work. I see it when I visit a carnival now; I
see it in the goldfish bowl when people are throwing ping - pongs
into them.
Samuel P. from Georgia: A Crackup At The Race Riots
seems to do several different things at a time on a page -- from
scenes to Q&As to quotes -- and many pages seem to have
individual titles. Is it meant to be read from start to finish, or
a page at a time, or jump in anywhere?
HK: I don't think it's really meant to be read. It's more meant to
be viewed, and it's meant to be skewed; and I would definitely say
it is a novel -- it does tell a story, it is a cohesive work. So I
wouldn't advise anyone, but if someone asked me my opinion, I
would say read it from the end in the order of the pages. I mean,
I cut up all my books and read them in a different order.
Souris from Santa Monica, CA: Harm, I know you just
finished A Crackup At The Race Riots , and I'll be sure to
buy it, but I'm more curious about your next screenplay. Have you
started it yet? And what's up with "Ken Park"?
Peace out.
HK: Yeah. I've been away, kind of -- I've been away in a cabin
with no heat, and all I had was a stopwatch and my computer, so I
think I just finished the new screenplay .... or am getting close
to it. It's a lot like The Catcher In The Rye if it was
more unleavened.
Sam from Oregon: Where did you get the title for your book?
Was it ever on the list in your book of "Titles For Books I
Will Write"?
HK: No, I just kind of had this vision .... I was reading about
Enoch -- he lived 'til a ripe old age -- and I had this idea, and
I think in a strange way it was sent by him or in the reading of
Enoch. That's kind of where I got it, but it seemed pretty
apparent -- I couldn't name it anything else .... Enoch named it.
Leslie from Hanover: I get the sense from reading this that
it is actually full of snippets from a notebook or working
journal. Did you write all of A Crackup At The Race Riots
with the idea that they would be part of one book? How did you
begin writing it?
HK: It goes back to everything -- it goes back to my films, it
goes back to my banjo playing, it's like a unified aesthetic. I
got it from everywhere, and it wasn't necessarily taken from
journals. It's like the way I think about films or cinema I don't
really differentiate between any of the things I do, my writing or
my movies, or my art or my banjo, or if I jump out of a window --
it's all the same vision. And I think with the book it's more or
less writing down either banter I heard or would make up or
appropriate. A lot of the book is reversed in that way. A lot of
it is taken from other writers that are given no citation, and a
lot of the writing which is mine is given citation to others. And
then I begin to forget or care.
Gregory C. from Chicago, IL: I haven't seen "Gummo"
yet, but "Kids" was unlike any film I've ever
seen. What do you try to do in your films? What makes a good movie
for you? What are your favorites?
HK: I can't really answer any of those, it's too private. I don't
try to do anything.
Rio from Ft. Lauderdale, FL: In A Crackup At The Race
Riots, some of the lines are drawn through with a black "censor"
line. Are these actually censored, or is it a form of editing?
Also, why the black line instead of retyping the pages?
HK: I think a lot of it were things that I wasn't allowed to write,
and instead of retyping it .... The novel is a visual thing, too,
so I did it because every time I just thought that the black lines
added up, and if you can look at the edges of letters that go
above the lines and below the lines, then that's reading between
the lines. That's why I kept them.
Chris from California: Are we going to see scenes like the
ones described in A Crackup At The Race Riots in some of
your movies? How similar was writing this to writing a screenplay?
HK: Yeah, it goes back to that other question. I don't know if
you'll see the exact scenes, because these were written for the
book. I don't differentiate between any of it.
Joe Brunetta from Santa Rosa, CA: "Gummo"
got terrible reviews from critics who said it is all exploitation
and no point. Are you going to give in to such criticism or make
films that raise points and not just ones that are "a slice
of messed - up lives"?
HK: Yeah.
Melody from Galway, NY: Hey, Harmony -- you didn't answer
that other guy's question. What's up with "Ken Park"?
HK: Sorry, I was speaking so quickly that I forgot a whole
question. "Ken Park" I wrote even before "Kids"
was financed. It was the second script that I had written, and I
was like 19 when I wrote it. I was very vulnerable at the time, I
had no money, so I signed a really bad contract with two different
people and each party would own fifty percent of the script, and I
have no say - so over the script .... the ownership isn't mine.
But after those kinds of things you just learn that you don't want
to work with other people. No one should have any say - so over
the work except for the author, at least regarding myself.
Jim from Boston, MA: Your film "Kids" was
banned in several states across the country. What do you think
about this kind of censorship?
HK: You know, I don't really think about it much. I just think
probably that's the way things will always remain, and I just
don't think about it. Your only duty is to do the work and put it
out there, and I just try to go on and not really think about it.
That's if, in fact, you're kind of indoctrinated.
G. T. from Binghamton, NY: I read that you are self -
educated. Does this mean you never attended a formal school? What
was your education like, and what are the benefits of it?
HK: I don't really know what self - educated means; I was trying
to figure that out myself. I've read books and I have done most
things on my own. I can't really say -- I just follow what I feel,
and I wasn't so interested in school, but at the same time I
attended school. I was interested in what the teachers didn't say,
and what the teachers were hiding under their skirts and
pantaloons.
Jessica from Queens: Having had a taste of the publishing
world, how would you compare it to the film industry? I'd like
your honest opinion, Harmony.
HK: My opinion is always honest, and I would definitely say that
the publishing world, at least in my experience, is like a sapling,
whereas the film industry is like a grieving widower who rides his
horse and can shoot a bullet through a deck of cards. Which is to
say that most definitely I prefer the writing -- the business part
of it, at least. Cinema has the most potential as far as being the
greatest art form. The novel has been around for so long, it's
already done everything it can do and then done it some more. But
cinema is still in its infancy, and that's why people get upset at
actually seeing things in films. I don't think anyone really cries
out when they're reading. I don't even know if people read. I
don't read contemporary fiction. I don't know why anyone else
would.
La La from La La Land: Is A Crackup At The Race Riots
a singular event? Will you continue to make films, or do you see
yourself also publishing future books? Have you experimented with
other media as well, like the studio arts or music?
HK: Yeah, but I wouldn't really call it experimenting. I've had
art shows and music -- I just do it because that's the only thing
I know and that's what takes up my time. My house is covered with
things and messy, and instead of just cleaning it, I go through it
and play with what I find, and then that becomes the work, I guess.
I never really think of it as a job. I started to think of it as a
job, and I felt like I was defeating myself, or defeating the
purpose. I just don't like to think of it like that. But I'll
definitely continue to write and to make films and to do
everything as long as I can hold up under the physical pressure.
It's quite difficult.
Karin from Boulder: There seems to be a spiritual theme to
your philosophy regarding work. Are you a spiritual person? Do you
practice any sort of religion -- Buddhism, maybe?
HK: Definitely not Buddhism. I'm aesthetically opposed. But as far
as spirituality, there's definitely a belief that comes more in
the form of a girl who was a child when I saw her last, who
doubtlessly used to watch me from a window or a door. And I
probably just passed unaware. But I guess everything within her
view belonged to me, too.
Penni from Petersboro: Who do you think are other young
filmmakers to watch today?
HK: I haven't seen many interesting films lately. I like Léos
Carax -- I don't think he's all that young, but he's made pretty
interesting films in the past.
Souris [girl] from Santa Monica, CA: Slayer is going on a
promo tour at the end of May through mid June. At one point you [might've]
mentioned an interest in directing a music video for them. Does
directing music videos still interest you? Your music selections
seemed so varied in "Gummo," as opposed to Lou
Barlow's selections for "Kids." Do you add your
two cents to the music selections? Because at some points they
make the scenes in "Gummo" brilliant.
HK: Well, I directed "Gummo"; I didn't direct
"Kids." "Gummo" is really my
first film. The director holds the power in making a film, and the
decisions are up to him. Before I just would never bother to do
anything unless I couldn't control it as a total. No, I don't have
any interest in directing music videos. I'd rather direct a Ford
commercial.
Green from Nashville: Are the things you write about the
same things you care about in life? How has success changed you,
and can you still relate to your old friends and family? You've
got a God - given talent and vision -- use it.
HK: Well, since he's coming from the same place I come from, and
he's probably thinking the same thoughts I once thought, and I've
probably even been in the same spots that he's in, I would say
that the last part of his question answers it all, if in fact it's
true. If the question is how do you relate to friends and family,
I don't think I ever could. I was always more of a relative than a
dam builder.
Rob Turetsky from Rutgers: I heard rumors that Jim Carroll
was around when you were born. He said that he wasn't, or if he
was, he couldn't remember. Any chance of the two of you
collaborating on something soon?
HK: I'm not sure. He's a good friend of mine. I'm not exactly sure
how two writers collaborate in the formal sense, but I appreciate
all he's given me.
Andrea from Golden, CO: The press made a big deal about the
rift between you and The New York Times's Janet Maslin when
"Gummo" came out. Was it really that big of a
deal? Do you even pay attention to what critics write about you?
HK: It wasn't a big deal for me in the sense of what she was
saying about the film. Right off the bat, she has a political
agenda, and I'm not a politician. The only reason I paid more
attention to that than the others is because she's more like an
ogre and I'm more like a barking lamb. But it's hard to say what I
pay attention to and what I don't.
JM from Missouri: Oscar Wilde was one of the strongest
proponents of "art for art's sake," and I can't help but
think this doesn't apply to your work. It seems as if you are
working toward some other motive with your art -- to disturb, to
shake things up, to draw attention to aspects of our society? What
are your motives in your style of art?
HK: The purpose makes it holy. I don't really like those kinds of
questions.
John P. from Hoboken, NJ: From whom do you think you have
learned the most about writing?
HK: Probably from Daisy Ashford. She wrote a novel called The
Young Visiters when she was nine. She was an English writer
from a different era, but The Young Visiters taught me the
most. And her first book, that she wrote when she was seven, was
called Love And Marriage. And her sister, who was two years
her junior, wrote a text on guinea pigs.
Uli from Los Angeles, CA: I am sure you have heard this far
too much, but you are very young -- as far as most filmmakers and
authors go. How long have you been doing this? How did you have
the advantage to begin so early when many people are still looking
for their break much later in life? What got you started?
HK: I guess I never looked for the break. I was more broken in the
sense of the word as it relates to a horse. I would just say I
don't really give career advice. I discourage careerist motives.
Oren from Philly: Your stories and writing seem to deal
with parts of people that people don't always want to speak about
-- drugs, abuse, sex -- and many of society's more unattractive
qualities. My question is, what do you like about people? What do
you intend to show when you expose these aspects of society?
HK: I don't really think I'm exposing anything, because it's
fiction. If it exposes something, that's specific to the person
that's watching. For me, it's all there up front. What do I like
about people? I don't know. I'd have to ask.
Moderator: Thank you for taking the time to answer our
questions, Harmony Korine. We wish you the best in your
multifaceted career. Do you have any final words for the online
audience?
HK: You're on the right track if you can play the slip - rock
fiddle that if played out of tune ruins a swastika's meaning and
deafens the most eager dog's hearing. A true octoroon prince.
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